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Let People Prosper

Recession Myths Are Making Bad Policy Worse with Dr. Tyler Goodspeed | LPP 202

A conversation on why economies shrink, why expansions do not die of old age, and how policymakers can stop making downturns worse.

Jun 11, 2026
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Hello friends,

Everyone wants to know when the next recession is coming. Wall Street watches every data release. Politicians blame their opponents. The Federal Reserve tries to read the tea leaves. And too many commentators treat recessions as if they are an inevitable punishment after a long expansion. But what if much of that conventional wisdom is wrong?

In this episode of the Let People Prosper Show, I’m joined by Dr. Tyler Goodspeed, Chief Economist at ExxonMobil and an adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute, to discuss his new book, Recession: The Real Reasons Economies Shrink and What to Do about It.

Tyler brings a rare combination of economic history, macroeconomic expertise, and real-world policymaking experience. He served as Chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisers during the first Trump administration and previously served as Vice Chairman and Chief Economist for Macroeconomic Policy. We overlapped during my time at the White House Office of Management and Budget, where these debates were not academic. They shaped real decisions affecting millions of Americans. With dual PhDs in economics and history, Tyler has the long-run perspective needed to challenge the easy stories politicians tell about downturns.

The goal should not be for the government to micromanage the economy. The goal should be to understand what actually causes downturns, avoid making them worse, and build the conditions for stronger long-run growth.

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Key Takeaways

  1. Recessions are not moral punishment for prosperity. They are not inevitable just because an expansion has lasted a long time. And they are not solved by pretending Washington can centrally plan its way around uncertainty.

  2. Good policy cannot eliminate every downturn. But bad policy can absolutely make downturns worse.

  3. That means policymakers should stop treating growth as something to restrain and start treating it as something to protect. They should avoid unnecessary regulatory burdens, reject politically driven credit allocation, restrain spending, support sound money, encourage energy production, and allow markets to adjust.

  4. The best recession policy is often the same as the best growth policy: let people produce, invest, build, trade, work, save, innovate, and prosper.

Bottom Line

Recessions are painful. But prosperity is not created by fearing growth, punishing investment, or expanding government control every time the economy slows. Prosperity comes from strong institutions, sound money, responsible budgets, open markets, limited government, energy abundance, entrepreneurship, and a culture that rewards work and innovation.

That is how we reduce the damage from downturns. That is how we sustain expansions. That is how we let people prosper.

Vance Ginn, Ph.D.

President, Ginn Economic Consulting

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